Dow-Gold Ratio: One of the most important ratios to understand
I don't think this description by Krassimir Petrov has received enough attention, inspection or development.
To me, this is one of the most important points I have read in years.
There has been a lot of debate about inflation/deflation. Lets look at what happens in both cases.
Please read this very carefully. I will split it into pieces:
Dow-Gold Ratio.The Dow-Gold ratio represents the most important ratio between the relative prices of financial assets and real assets.
The Dow component represents the valuation of financial assets; the gold component – of real assets.
When leverage in the financial system increases significantly, so does this ratio. A very high ratio is interpreted as an imbalance between financial and real assets – financial assets are grossly overvalued, while real assets are grossly undervalued.
It also implies that a correction eventually will be necessary – either through deflation, which implies deleveraging and a collapsing stock market, or through inflation, which implies stagnant stock market for many years and steadily rising prices of real assets, commodities, and gold, usually associated with stagnant economy and typically resulting in stagflation. The first case—deflation—occurred during the 1930s, while the second case—stagflation—occurred during the 1970s
from:
WORSE THAN THE GREAT DEPRESSION
by Krassimir Petrov, PhD
Prince Sultan University, Saudi Arabia
November 2, 2008
http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/petrov/2008/1102.html
with this chart:

Krassimir then goes on to say:
The graph above illustrates the above concepts. The very high Dow-Gold Ratio in 1929 was followed by the Great Depression, while the higher level in 1966 was followed by the stagflationary 70s.It is evident from the chart the peak in 2000 surpassed the previous two peaks in 1929 and 1966, so this provides a reasonable expectation that the forthcoming return to “normalcy” will be more painful than the Great Depression, at least in terms of cumulative pain over the next 10-15 years.
It does look as if we are getting bigger bubbles and deeper crashes:

This is the point Krassimir is making:

In both possibilities, he predicts that gold will outperform the stock market, and for many years.
The remaining question is, how will gold perform relative to the fiat currencies of the world ?
If I understand him correctly, the possibilities range from:
1. Inflation, with stagnant stock market prices, and rising gold, relative to fiat currencies.
to
2. Deflation, with falling stock market prices, relative to fiat currencies.
But what of gold relative to the fiat currencies in the deflationary case ?
IMO we should try and identify the two extreme possibilities, and then try and make educated decisions from there.
This is another statement from Krassimir:
The first scenario , deflation, implies a major contraction in the supply of money and credit, similar to the one during the Great Depression. Consumer and commodity prices would fall rapidly; the stock market and real estate market would collapse. Back then, stock prices and real estate fell roughly 10 times and gold rose only a little. If this scenario were to play out, then a reasonable forecast for the Dow will be about $1,000-1,500, while the gold price will be likely in the range of $800-1,500. This scenario is highly unlikely as the Fed will fight tooth and nail to prevent a deflation from taking hold.The second scenario , stagflation, is most likely. It should look similar to the 1970s. Back then, the Dow made its peak in 1966. It made little progress for about 15 years, so that in 1980 it was just about where it was in 1966, roughly around 1,000. Gold, on the other hand, rose from a low of $35 all the way to $850. This means that strong inflation during the period kept the Dow from falling, so it did not fall as it did during the Great Depression. On the other hand, inflation powered the price of gold about 25-fold. In this scenario, we should expect the Dow to remain range-bound in the 10,000-15,000 range. Then, a gold forecast of 10,000 is perfectly realistic.
The third scenario , very strong inflation, is definitely possible, although less likely than stagflation. This would mean a typical, commonly-observed inflation of a third-world country, may be 15-25% annually. This kind of inflation could easily power the Dow may be 3-4 times in the coming decade, may be all the way to $30,000-50,000. This could mean a $20 for a loaf of bread or a gallon of gasoline. This would imply a gold price in the range of 20,000-50,000. It is possible, even probable, but in my opinion, not very realistic.
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article3753.html
This article also mentions the DOW-Gold ratio, and has some interesting charts:
DeForest McDuff: Long-term gold cycles & Bear market anatomy - Both worth checking for the charts
http://neuralnetwriter.cylo42.com/node/2128
This thread should be sufficient to encourage you to seek a haven for at least some of your wealth:
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http://neuralnetwriter.cylo42.com/node/2535
The Dow/Gold Ratio Will Decline Further
8 January 2010
http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1262971500.php
The Dow Jones Industrial Average (Dow)/gold ratio is important because it indicates the optimism for financial assets versus that of hard assets. A rising ratio demonstrates high confidence in the economy and falling inflation expectations while a declining ratio indicates low confidence in the economy and rising inflation expectations. Although the current Dow/gold ratio of 9.3x is significantly lower than the peak of 45x that was reached in 1999, it is still nearly 9x higher than the levels that were reached at the bottoms of the 1930s and 1970s bear markets. During 2009, a significant increase in the ratio from 7.0x to 10.1x occurred, which rivaled the largest counter-trend move seen during the 1929-1932 stock bear market when the ratio increased from below 10x to above 14x. Following that move in 1930 (as seen in Figure 3), the Dow/gold ratio resumed its contraction during the remainder of the Great Depression era. Similar to that era, stocks are currently in a bear market relative to gold. This suggests that the Dow/gold ratio will not bottom until it reaches levels closer to those of the prior bear market bottoms, at roughly 1 to 2 units of Dow per ounce of gold.The Dow/gold ratio peaked in 1999 at nearly 45x and has been declining ever since (Figure 1). This peak coincided with optimism for financial assets and disinterest in commodities.
We are currently at about 8.5.
Here is a 'live' chart for the DOW-Gold ratio:
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$INDU:$GOLD&p=W&b=5&g=0&id=p47102554447
Here is a 'live' chart for the S&P500-Gold ratio:
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$SPX:$GOLD&p=W&b=5&g=0&id=p02906793733
Please note, this is a ratio, not a price. So a drop from 10 to 1, from a high of 45, is not just an extra 9 on a movement of 35.
45 to 10 is a gain of 45/10x = 4.5x.
A further drop from 10 to 1 is a gain of 10/1x = 10x.
So the biggest change is still ahead.

In many ways this chart explains exactly why the DOW-gold ratio is so useful/important.
It shows so clearly the cycles.
A stock market bull phase means: High cumulative gains. The price of the DOW rises relative to the price of gold. The DOW-Gold ratio rises.
You can see that at the end of each bull phase, the DOW-Gold ratio reached a higher level each time. That means the price of the DOW got higher relative to the price of gold.
A stock market bear phase means: Low cumulative gains. Over a long period the stock market ends up little changed from the beginning, and goes through drops in between.
During these phases the price of the DOW falls relative to the price of gold.
At the end of each bear phase you can see that the DOW-Gold ratio returned to about the same level. Around 1.
Today (18th Oct 2009):
DOW = 9,996
GoldUS$ = 1,052
The DOW-Gold ratio = 9,996 / 1,052 = 9.5
IMO this should be one of the main indicators that should be watched, because it will indicate most clearly when the stock bear market is likely to be near.
As you can see, the case for gold is pretty clear.
Here are two very good options for buying gold & silver and having them stored for you in secure insured vaults:
Bullion Vault ......... and ......... Gold Money
For more details see this:
Why & Where to buy Gold & Silver
http://neuralnetwriter.cylo42.com/node/2535
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